Chain Mail I Received: New Pledge of Allegiance

December 11, 2008

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It seems through some of my affiliation that I am attached to that people feel the need to forward me chain letters.   Even if it was something I believed in, I wouldn’t want a chain letter.  I would prefer to read your own thoughts.  It seems someone sends me mails with a religious bent to them.   Some of them rail against the separation of church and state, something that even as a christian I hold very dear (for some reason most Christians don’t want it separated since they naively believe for all eternity they will be the dominant religion).   I’m more pragmatic.  I don’t think the dogmatic moral laws of each different little christian sect should be represented.   I’ve had my immediate say.  Let’s look at the first chain letter in this new series.

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A 15 yr. Old SCHOOL KID IN ARIZONA:

New Pledge of Allegiance (TOTALLY AWESOME) !

Since the Pledge of Allegiance
And
The Lord’s Prayer
Are not allowed in most
Public schools anymore
Because the word ‘God’ is mentioned….
A kid in Arizona
Wrote the attached

NEW School prayer :

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God’s name is prohibited by the state.

We’re allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks..
They’ve outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the ‘unwed daddy,’ our Senior King.
It’s ‘inappropriate’ to teach right from wrong,
We’re taught that such ‘judgments’ do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It’s scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school’s a mess..
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!

Amen

If you aren’t ashamed to do this,
Please pass this on.
Jesus said,
‘If you are ashamed of me,
I will be ashamed of you before my Father.’

Not ashamed. Pass this on..

Let’s go through this section by section:

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

Well ironically we still have in god we trust on our money, what people don’t realize is that “God” on your money has been found legally to be an abstraction and doesn’t necessarily refer to a Christian Diety.   Religious freedom was one of hte purposes of this country.  Once you start choosing an officially sanctioned govenerment religion, or teach the tenets of said religion you undermine the purpose that we were taught in school on why the first settlers came here.  (Yes I know that story is not quite as simplistic or accurate as we were taught).

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Ironically I don’t think we have thought police anywhere – like everything else it’s a don’t ask don’t tell world anymore.  If your flaunting anything that’s against school rules however you will be punished.   There have been exteremly few federal cases over this so I’m not quite sure it would really be a federal matter.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

What’s wrong with different colored hairs at all?  Mine has been natural.  Mine has been jet black.  Mine has been purple.  Mine has been blue.  There is nothing wrong with this.  My sister however almost got expelled from school because she dyed her hair bright red (not natural red).   I almost went and fought this at the school board, but she backed down (I’m sure with my mother’s coaching of not wanting to look bad to the neighbors).   We’ve lost the freedom of personal expression in schools and it’s not just prayers.  Besides if you really need to pray out loud I find you creepy.  Your like the guy at the video game store who picks up every title and reads the description out loud since they seem to lack any inner monologue.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God’s name is prohibited by the state.

Um, yes please be silent.  I pray, but I find you audible prayers creepy.  “Dear God please make my genital warts go away” – come on that would just be extremely creepy.   That’s the kind of thing I know some people pray for.  We want to pretend that they are all praying that the sick get better or the orphanage finds a savior donor so it can stay open.  It isn’t.

We’re allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks..
They’ve outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

I’m fairly sure that guns were outlawed in most schools before the bible.  Granted I know some rural schools were teh kids could check in their gun when they arrive because they were hunting before school.   Do we really have to point out on how many levels that is wrong.   We’ll stick with just the hygiene issues.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the ‘unwed daddy,’ our Senior King.
It’s ‘inappropriate’ to teach right from wrong,
We’re taught that such ‘judgments’ do not belong.

I don’t see anything wrong with this – I have great grandparents that were probably married younger then someone who is the prom king or queen.   You can always judge someone, but when you have a holier then thou attitude it just doesn’t fly.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

Hmmmm, you complain about pregnant senior queens and unwed fathers, but rail against birth control – I won’t point out the irony.

It’s scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school’s a mess..
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!

I’ve gone to a private school and I’ve gone to a public school – let me tell you the Christian schools still have the same issues with the ten commandments as part of the curriculum as public schools have without.

I’m not alone – someone else railed against this with their own poem – read it here.

11 thoughts on “Chain Mail I Received: New Pledge of Allegiance

  1. Creeva,

    You are a small minded, short sighted idiot. I mean that in the nicest way possible. If prayer offends you, don't listen, and further more if it offends you…maybe the rest of the constitution that outlines our other freedoms offends you as well. If we begin to hack away at them (our freedoms in which the country was based on) one at a time, where does it stop? They will eventually attack and eliminate a freedom that does affect or offend you.
    Also, I've read through all of your comments on this rendition of the Pledge of Allegiance, and I think that you've missed many points that this young person is putting out there. When referring to “God” on our currency, it is not singling out any specific deity by definition. All religions referenced leader Christ, Buddha, and so forth are all considered their “God”. And her reference to the birth control was simply stating that the irony was in fact that schools will provide a means for minors to have safe sex (and I'm OK with that, even though I don't condone children having sex – I'd rather they be safe in doing what they will do) but will not allow those same minors their religious freedoms.
    You need to learn to interpret things a little better or maybe read between the lines so that you can understand their true meanings. It scares the hell out of me to think that some simpleton such as yourself might possibly be a registered voter.

  2. I'm the idiot? You agreed with me.

    The first point you called me out on is –

    “When referring to “God” on our currency, it is not singling out any specific deity by definition. All religions referenced leader Christ, Buddha, and so forth are all considered their “God””

    My answer on this point was this –

    “what peo­ple don’t real­ize is that “God” on your money has been found legally to be an abstrac­tion and doesn’t nec­es­sar­ily refer to a Chris­t­ian Diety. “

    Now after that we differ a bit – if you want to argue the rights we have actually lost, some thanks the US PATRIOT act I'm all for it and rally behind it. Yes I'm offended that she thinks christian deserve a “special” right – after the founding fathers explicitly stated there would be a separation of church and state. Politically I'm a constitutionalist, but I also consider myself a christian – though to be honest as time goes by I'm becoming more agnostic.

    You think I am a simpleton (granted I have a policy of not reediting what I have written, but the misspellings of the word “the” that came up so often makes me shrink back a little myself), yet in you own statement you referred to Buddha as a consideration of God to Buddhists. First of all buddhism is closer to philisophy then religion, and he considered himself just a teacher and would be greatly offended by anyone considering him a god (I get this from my knowledge since I obviously don't have a first hand account.)

    I don't see her calling out for religious equality – where are her pleas for prayer rugs in school so Muslims can pray to mecca?

    Where is her railing against school uniforms that are becoming more and more common and are made without consideration of religious views. That point came up because of the town I used to live in was considering implementing school uniforms and someone pointed out what about the Amish. While there was none in the town I used to live in, there are where I live now, so this hit home. It's not that far to the town where uniforms are being considered, so it's not out of the realm of possibility they may one day pick up some Amish students. What about their rights?

    The right to openly pray? Really? That is your hot button topic? I don't know of any schools that would disallow her to where a cross or rosary if others can wear necklaces. If you are going to fight the stance for prayer and schools and equality for religious practices in state run institutions – then fight for the prayer mats also.

    Until you are ready to do that, you can't say you are fighting for equality on an equal playing field with the other religions – which is what this whole thing boils down to. You have to accept all of it or none of it. Separation of church and state is not really about disallowing religion in state run buildings, but it's about not showing favoritism for one religion over the other. Once the rights and practices of all religions are respected and can accommodated in state run institutions I'll be right behind you to allow this girl to pray. Until that state of acceptance and accommodations can be achieved, she just wants special privileges that the other students are already denied. She is complaining about her “right” to pray – but the things she is complaining about have nothing to do with that on an equal playing field – how they dress does not equal their religious practices.

    But you must have known and thought all about that, after all I'm the simpleton in this conversation.

  3. I'm the idiot? You agreed with me.

    The first point you called me out on is –

    “When referring to “God” on our currency, it is not singling out any specific deity by definition. All religions referenced leader Christ, Buddha, and so forth are all considered their “God””

    My answer on this point was this –

    “what peo­ple don’t real­ize is that “God” on your money has been found legally to be an abstrac­tion and doesn’t nec­es­sar­ily refer to a Chris­t­ian Diety. “

    Now after that we differ a bit – if you want to argue the rights we have actually lost, some thanks the US PATRIOT act I'm all for it and rally behind it. Yes I'm offended that she thinks christian deserve a “special” right – after the founding fathers explicitly stated there would be a separation of church and state. Politically I'm a constitutionalist, but I also consider myself a christian – though to be honest as time goes by I'm becoming more agnostic.

    You think I am a simpleton (granted I have a policy of not reediting what I have written, but the misspellings of the word “the” that came up so often makes me shrink back a little myself), yet in you own statement you referred to Buddha as a consideration of God to Buddhists. First of all buddhism is closer to philisophy then religion, and he considered himself just a teacher and would be greatly offended by anyone considering him a god (I get this from my knowledge since I obviously don't have a first hand account.)

    I don't see her calling out for religious equality – where are her pleas for prayer rugs in school so Muslims can pray to mecca?

    Where is her railing against school uniforms that are becoming more and more common and are made without consideration of religious views. That point came up because of the town I used to live in was considering implementing school uniforms and someone pointed out what about the Amish. While there was none in the town I used to live in, there are where I live now, so this hit home. It's not that far to the town where uniforms are being considered, so it's not out of the realm of possibility they may one day pick up some Amish students. What about their rights?

    The right to openly pray? Really? That is your hot button topic? I don't know of any schools that would disallow her to where a cross or rosary if others can wear necklaces. If you are going to fight the stance for prayer and schools and equality for religious practices in state run institutions – then fight for the prayer mats also.

    Until you are ready to do that, you can't say you are fighting for equality on an equal playing field with the other religions – which is what this whole thing boils down to. You have to accept all of it or none of it. Separation of church and state is not really about disallowing religion in state run buildings, but it's about not showing favoritism for one religion over the other. Once the rights and practices of all religions are respected and can accommodated in state run institutions I'll be right behind you to allow this girl to pray. Until that state of acceptance and accommodations can be achieved, she just wants special privileges that the other students are already denied. She is complaining about her “right” to pray – but the things she is complaining about have nothing to do with that on an equal playing field – how they dress does not equal their religious practices.

    But you must have known and thought all about that, after all I'm the simpleton in this conversation.

  4. Once again, you fail to read between the lines. I was not, nor did my
    post to you indicate, that I was rallying behind any one specific religion.
    You are assuming entirely to much based on your own personal or hurt
    feelings.

    I simply agreed with the author of the poem simply for her right to
    prayer regardless of religion, color, creed, location (church or state).
    These are part of any US citizens “inalienable rights”. Their are more
    religions practiced by US citizens than I care to type about currently…
    and I believe that they all have the right to prayer regardless of one's
    geographic location. I also believe when 'state' decides for us when &
    where 'church' starts and stops is a load of bologna!

    She wasn't singling out Christianity as a way to ignore other culture's
    religious rights, she is simply a Christian speaking up for her own
    religious rights – you know that whole freedom of speech thing that you as a
    self proclaimed 'constitutionalist' should more than understand! I mean
    come on, if she had been a Muslim, she would have a clever poem protesting
    her right to bow down before Allah and read the Curran at her locker between
    classes… All I'm saying is we all have the right to our religious beliefs
    and practices wherever we are – regardless of what the “new” government
    thinks, and regardless of what you think… don't turn this into something
    that it's not.

  5. “Now I sit me down in school
    where praying is against the rule.”

    You have it wrong, your bias shows-
    Pray! But prayer do not impose.
    You can even pray to pass the course,
    though study’s a more potent force.

    “For this great nation under God
    finds mention of Him very odd.”

    This statement’s plain and simple wrong-
    such mentions put where they belong.
    None withholds the right from you
    to talk of God, and angels (Satan) too.
    Just do not do it anywhere,
    for your beliefs all do not share.

    “If scripture now the class recites,
    it violates the Bill of Rights.”

    Reciting scripture is no crime-
    (and give Mohammed equal time.)
    Where many cultures intersect
    of all we ought to have respect.
    No one message should be stressed
    and therefore all should be suppressed.

    “The law is specific, the law is precise-
    prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
    In silence alone we must meditate,
    God’s name is prohibited by the state.”

    When praying, you can shout and moan,
    but kindly do it when alone.
    And do not say God’s name is banned
    when it’s heard throughout the land.

    “For praying in a public hall
    might offend someone! with no faith at all.”

    Now when the simple truth you speak
    your cynicism then grows weak.

    “Our hair can be purple, orange, or green-
    that’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene.
    We’re allowed to curse and dress like freaks,
    and pierce our noses, tongues, and cheeks.”

    Even though they may look odd,
    that doesn’t mean they don’t love God;
    and if their hair is painted pink
    it does not mean in sin they sink.

    “We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
    and the ‘unwed daddy’ our Senior King.”

    Now when it comes to pregnant Queens
    and unwed dads still in their teens,
    this Christian rule you should apply-
    love the sinner, sin decry.

    “It’s inappropriate to teach right from wrong;
    we’re taught such ‘judgments’ don’t belong.
    The ten commandments are not allowed,
    No word of God must reach this crowd.”

    Teaching right from wrong is right-
    no one sanctions moral blight.
    The bible’s not the textbook, though;
    and heathens, right from wrong, may know.
    Ethics, reason may impart;
    Religion need not play a part.

    “It’s scary here, I must confess-
    when chaos reigns the school’s a mess.
    So Lord, this silent plea I make:
    should I be shot, my soul please take.”

    It may be true, religion breeds,
    through fear and terror, moral deeds.
    But don’t believe you can’t be killed
    by those by whom the church is filled.

  6. Our nation will always be” A NATION UNDER GOD” no matter what has been done or removed.As a christian I find very helpfull (1timothy 2:1-4).When “The Pledge Of Aligiance” was removed from the schools,it was truelly heart breaking to hear. w/o God we would not Be.

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